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      • While he obviously hasn't had the chance to test his Ultra Ego might against Jiren, there are certain signs that indicate that the form has indeed made Vegeta the more powerful character of the two. A major hint for this comes in the very Tournament of Power where Jiren faces Goku in his extreme form, Super Full Power.
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  2. In Dragon Ball FighterZ, Jiren states that Super Saiyan Blue Vegito, and Gogeta in his Super Saiyan Blue or Super Saiyan 4 forms are equal to him in power. In Dragon Ball Legends, Jiren finds himself outmatched by Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta, believing the fusion's power to be endless.

  3. Essentially, Jiren's views are the exact opposite to Goku's, who values allies and assistance, viewing them as the key to true growth. Once Goku's personal drive allowed him to evolve his power enough to truly challenge Jiren, the Pride Trooper became very erratic.

  4. In the anime, Vegeta and Goku are beaten black & blue multiple times and have to overexert themselves over and over. Jiren, in comparison, is pretty much at 100% when they engage him. Vegeta's words could be true in the sense that, when both are at 100%, their power is similar.

  5. Sep 3, 2023 · Because this essentially confirms that Vegeta's Ultra Ego is stronger than Goku's Mastered Ultra Instinct, it's pretty clear that Ultra Ego Vegeta would walk all over Jiren, Super Full...

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  6. Vegeta takes pride in his own strength, just like Jiren does. Vegeta has impressed Jiren a couple of times – the power of his final flash, reading his attack and punching him, defeating Toppo etc.

  7. Nov 14, 2021 · Considering Goku's and Vegeta's power levels after their relatively short time training under Whis, it's likely that Jiren has been training with his own universe's deities for far longer than our heroes.

  8. Oct 6, 2020 · If anything, Jiren triggered Goku to break his boundaries and it's unknown whether someone else could push the Saiyan enough to unleash Ultra Instinct. As of right now, Goku can't attain the power level at will.

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