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      • The tragic loss of his son led to the end of his marriage to Jill which was subsequently followed by his cancer diagnosis. The endless tragedy in his life led John to lose the will to live, and he attempted suicide by crashing his car, as seen in Saw II. However, he survived the attempt, crawling out of the wreck in pain.
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  2. John was alive in Jigsaw because part of the movie is a prequel, meaning the events of that movie happened before the original trilogy.

  3. Jul 3, 2024 · Those fluent in Saw mythos know that John Kramer died at the end of Saw 3, at the hands of Jeff Denlon, the player of Jigsaw’s game in the third installment. Moments before, his apprentice, Amanda, was shot and killed—taking a chunk out of the killer’s legacy.

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  4. Oct 29, 2017 · Originating a cruel trick that he would later revisit in the first Saw ’s iconic bathroom trap, John hid the keys to the contestants’ ankle chains within the final stage of the farmhouse games....

  5. Jul 3, 2024 · In actuality, the real Jigsaw Killer has been dead for the entirety of the film’s central timeline. Logan Nelson— his undetected successor— emulates Kramer’s game with Anna and the others and drops bodies across the town that mirror the same deaths.

  6. Oct 31, 2017 · Logan admits that he was in the trap for a very specific reason: he was the X-ray tech that misdiagnosed John Kramer, allowing him to live with an undiagnosed cancer for longer than he had to....

  7. John became bitter after the loss of their unborn child, and he and Jill ultimately divorced. After being diagnosed with cancer and attempting suicide, John becomes the Jigsaw Killer and Cecil is his first victim. The film also further illuminates Amanda Young's backstory and connection to John Kramer.

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